For the past few months, I have been posting documents that belonged to my paternal great-grandfather Dennis O’Connell. This week, I continue with Dennis’s records.
His 1917 Draft Card gives his current address as 29 Main St., Glens Falls, NY. It was signed either Jan or June of 1917, it is a bit hard to decipher. Months after he signed his draft card, Dennis moved to Thorold, Canada.
I am so thankful to have these records and Dennis’s handwriting on each of them.
This letter from Our Lady of Mount Carmel is another precious document in my collection from my Great Grandfather, Larry O’Connell’s scrap-book. According to this letter, dated 7 July 1940, Dennis O’Connell was born on 6 Sep 1883 to John and Bridget O’Connell and baptized 16 Sep 1883. His sponsors were Edward and Mary Leonard. The officiating Rev. was J.J. Hayden.
I spoke to the church office just over a year ago and Our Lady of Mount Carmel closed its doors on Easter Sunday, 2009. All records are being kept by St. Mary’s Church in Granville, NY.
For Treasure Chest Thursday I am adding my Great Grandfather’s obituary, which is from The St. Catherines Standard.
O’Connell, Dennis – At the Hamilton General Hospital, Friday, Nov. 17, 1950, Dennis O’Connell.
Resting at the Funeral Home of Noble S. Crowe, 26 Ormond St. S., Thorold , where prayers for the departed will be said at 7:30 this Saturday evening. Interment will take place in Hudson Falls, New York.
Dennis O’Connell obituary, St. Catherines Standard, St. Catherines, Ontario, 18 November, 1950, page 2 column 6.
Lisa Alzo of The Accidental Genealogist has put together a great list of writing prompts for Women’s History Month. The first prompt asks if you have a favorite female ancestor, one you seem drawn to or would like to learn more about. Write about the key facts or what you would like to learn. Outline your goals and what potential sources you can check.
I have two females that I would like to know more about, it was a hard choice. My decision is to write about my Great Grandmother, Rose/Rosa May (Springer) O’Connell McAvoy, the reason I decided on Rose is because she is the closest generation to me.
Rose/Rosa May Springer was born 30 Mar 1888, in Maine. Her Mother’s name was Mary. She had a sister named Sophia and a brother named William. I currently do not have information on her father.
About 1897 Rose married Dennis O’Connell. They were both Catholic and raised their children in the Catholic Church. Rose gave birth to 4 children, with 1 child dying in infancy. The surviving children were:
Ambrose Lawrence 17 Dec 1905 – 28 Feb 1975
Linus Joseph 5 Mar 1908 – 31 Oct 1980
Theresa May abt 1909 – 1990
The fourth child is still unknown at this point.
Dennis and Rose lived in a few different places. Son Ambrose was born in Berlin, NH while Linus and Theresa were both born in the state of New York. I have traced Rose in the following locations:
Moreau, Saratoga, NY
Glens Falls, Warren, NY
Chicago, Cook, IL
In 1917, Rose’s husband Dennis signed the World War 1 draft card and then proceeded to move to Canada, where he died in 1950. Rose continued to raise her children alone in NY until the 1920′s when her boys rode the rails to Chicago. She soon followed with daughter Theresa. By 1930, Rose is found remarried to Frank McAvoy. Within the past year, I have found the gravesite of Rose and Theresa just blocks from my home.
What would I like to know about Rose? How can I find the information?
Who is her father? Check for her birth information, some type of index or registration list for Maine
Where did Rose and Dennis get married? An exact date would be good too. Find marriage record, in either NY or NH
When and where did Rose and Dennis get divorced? Assumption would be NY which is where they last lived together. Would have to check with the courts. I am unsure of this process since I do not have any dates.
What happened to Frank? He is not in the same cemetery. Check with his family. They are connected on my Geni.com family tree. I sent a request for information once, I need to follow-up.
What happened to her fourth baby and where is that baby buried? Again, back to NY check Moreau, Saratoga County which is where the family was living in 1910.
There are many other questions I have, but research would never answer them. They would be more of the personal questions that only Rose would be ale to answer.
This was a great exercise, not just to put information out there. But because Lisa has prompted me to think about where I can find the answers to the questions I have. Thanks Lisa for putting thought into the prompts for this month. I look forward to doing as many as possible.
The next installment of Carnival of Genealogy is about our goals for 2010. I could not very well write new goals with revisiting the ones I set for 2009. Below are the goals for 2009 in bold and what I have accomplished so far.
1. Find out who the parents are for John O’Connell.
Still trying to find out. I have found where John is buried, I need to order his death certificate to continue my research.
2. Find out who the parents are for Bridget Curran O’Connell.
Again, I have found where she is buried and need to get more records to continue research on the Curran line. According to church records, they believe she had a sister named Catherine.
3. Place the remaining 2 O’Connell’s at St Paul’s/St Mary’s Cemetery into the family tree.
Still have to place Marie O’Connell (1859 – 1950). I am thinking she is either a second wife for John or an unmarried sister.
4. Go to NY and visit the cemeteries and get photo’s of grave markers (St Paul’s/St Mary’s, Black River and Mount Carmel). Plus meet the family I have found.
Since I have been unemployed for most of the year, I have not been able to make it to NY. I have written letters and spoke on the phone with one of the relatives I have found. Theresa is willing to meet with our family and interested in whatever family information I have found.
5. Continue to blog my research and findings on a regular basis.
Still blogging about my research
6. Start more in-depth research on the Springer line.
The Springer line starts with my Great Grandmother Rose Springer (30 Mar 1888 – 22 Aug 1966). So far, I have found her Mother in once census record. Mother is Mary, she also has a brother, William and a sister, Sophia/Sophie.
Though I have done a lot of research this year, it seems I need to work more on these goals. To be precise, I need to set precise goals and go from there.
The 16th edition of the Irish Heritage and Culture has asked bloggers to submit a story on an Irish ancestor and share a photo, if possible. When I started researching the family tree, the one question I really wanted to answer was where in Ireland did my Irish ancestors come from? At this point I am no closer to answering that question, but I am still working on it.
Copyright © 2009 Terri O’Connell (original photo held by Terri O’Connell)
Dennis O’Connell was born 6 Sep 1883 to John and Bridget (Curran) O’Connell of Granville, NY. Dennis was third of seven children. He was also the first son born into the family. He was baptized 10 days after his birth at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Catholic Church, Middle Granville, NY. His sponsors were Edward and Mary Leanord. He married Rose Springer circa 1897.
Rose and Dennis had 4 children, Ambrose Lawrence (my Grandfather), Linus Joseph, Theresa May and the fourth child died as a toddler. They started their family in New Hampshire, where Ambrose was born in 1905. In 1910, the family was living at 11 New Street, Town of Moreau, Saratoga County, NY. Also living with the family was Mary E. Robichaud and William Springer (Rose’s Mother and brother).
Dennis is found in 1918, in Thorold, Alberta, Canada on 15 Jan 1918. This record states he has been living there for three months. Dennis continues his career in papermaking, working for the Ontario Paper Company.
By 1920, Dennis and Rose have divorced. Rose is raising the three children, between the ages 11 and 14, alone. They are living at 12 Jay Street, Queensbury, Warren County, NY.
Dennis died in 17 Nov 1950. His body was returned home to Hudson Falls, NY. Where he is buried surrounded his father, brother – John W, sister - Harriet and other O’Connell family members at St Paul’s/St Mary’s Cemetery, Hudson Falls, NY.
Though few relatives remain that were around when Dennis was alive, I unfortunately have no stories to share. Dennis spent his remaining years in Canada and his grandchildren were raised in Chicago, IL. Though they lived far apart, it seems that Dennis did remain in touch with his children through the years. Through conversations with family members, I know that his oldest son went to Canada and stayed with his Dad for work reasons at one point. I also have pictures of Dennis with his three grown children.
Since I have not found any official divorce records at this point, I can only assume that the reason Dennis left NY for Canada is to find employment. I hope that one day, I will be able to find the truth to this.
In his private records that I have, I can see that he was a hard worker and had many friends. In these records is a poem written upon his death by co workers. I will add this to my blog another day.
1 Letter from Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Middle Granville, dated 7 Jul 1940, Original, held by Terri O’Connell
2 1910 Federal Census, Town of Moreau, Saratoga County, NY ED 119, SD 9, sheet 7A, line 7, Ancestry.com, http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7884&iid=NYT624_1076-0707&fn=Dennis&ln=Oconnel&st=r&ssrc=pt_t9822545_p-737908889_g32768&pid=19920176
3 1920 Federal Census, Queensbury, Warren County, NY ED 163, SD 10, Sheet 1B, line 77, Ancestry.com, http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=NYT625_1272-0094&fn=Rose&ln=O+Connell&st=r&ssrc=pt_t9822545_p-737907139_g32768&pid=87554000
A few days ago I posted my brickwall ancestor, John O’Connell, in Most Wanted! Ancestors Lost and Found on Genealogy Wise. I had previously posted on a different group there as well and replies were few, but with some great ideas I had tried out. Unfortunately, I had not found any information through their suggestions. Thanks to the wonderful people that continue to check in on Most Wanted, not only have I been given some great advice, but GeneJ also found a State Census Record for John and his family in 1892 on Family Search.
I have tried to upload the record here, but had no luck tonight I will try to edit tomorrow and see if I add it.
This newly found record confirms a few things for my family:
1. Bridget is the mother, though I have her burial info, I have not placed her in any census with her family.
2. Hattie is listed with the family as well. I have her burial info as well and I found that accidentally. She is buried in the same area as my Great Grandfather Dennis O’Connell. Most of the O’Connell’s buried there I could place. Once I had Hattie’s name, I was able to find her father John in the 1910 Federal Census. He was living with her and her husband.
3. According to every other census I looked at Hattie was born in 1880, NJ. This is also the same year as Elizabeth, I assumed one was born early in the year and the other, towards the end. According to this record, Hattie is 2 years older then Elizabeth. Since both were born in NJ, I assume the family lived in New Jersey for a few years before moving to the area of Granville, NY.
Today’s lesson learned, go back and recheck websites that you previously have looked at. I go through Family Search about every six months to see if I can find anything. Usually I come out empty handed.
For more information on my search, please follow our comments Most Wanted – John O’Connell.
Born Ambrose Lawrence (Larry) O’Connell on 17 Dec 1905 in Berlin, NH to Dennis O’Connell of Grangerville, NY and Rose May Springer of Maine. Ambrose was raised in the Hudson Falls area of NY. In his 20′s, he road the rails with brother Linus (Joe) to Illinois, where both brothers settled, for the most part. Soon after their Mother Rose and sister Theresa followed. Both brothers started life using their first names, but somewhere in the 1930-1940′s both boys started using their middle names. Larry died 28 Feb 1975, Chicago, IL.
Larry was married 3 times. His first marriage was to Janet, they had a son Bobby.
His second marriage was to Rose, they had son Dennis and daughter June Rose.
His third marriage was to Ida Jaeger, they had daughter Theresa, and sons Lawrence and David.
Larry is my paternal Grandfather, through his third marriage to Ida. Last week I wrote about my memories of Ida, you can read more about her here.
I was very young when my Grandpa passed, but I wanted to share the memories I do have. When I gave birth to my first child, my father and I were sitting in the hospital talking about my Grandparents. When we discussed them, he could not believe the things I remembered because they passed when I was young.
Grandpa Larry treated his grandchildren well. You could say that we were spoiled by him to a point. The family did not have much money, but we had love. I remember Grandpa would walk home from work, he would always have candy in his pockets for the grandkids. If it was something I did not like, he would bring me home some Swiss Miss Chocolate Pudding. He wanted all of us to be happy.
Grandpa had his hobby of building ships. I remember we were allowed to look, but that was it. I recall sitting there watching him work with these small parts and how fascinated we were with them. Unfortunately, I do not have one of the beautiful ships he built. I do however have the next best thing, I have some pictures of them. Make sure to come back on Treasure Chest Thursday to see them.
Once, when we were in his room watching him build, he taught us how to siphon water from one glass to another. Strange memory, I know!
He loved the first snow. It was peaceful and beautiful. I remember him waking me in the middle of the night so that we could watch that first snow come down. How it looked so beautiful on the trees. It was pure, unspoiled beauty! To this day, this is my favorite time to watch the snow. This past year, I went outside with my camera in hand to enjoy the beauty of mother nature.
I remember sitting on his lap, watching Frosty the snowman. How I cried at the end when Frosty melted, to his calm reply “he will be back again next year.” Yes, I realize that is how the show ended, I was four and found the comfort from my Grandpa instead of the cartoon.
He taught us to dunk our toast in coffee, and did not mind when we did it to his coffee!
The last of my memories happen sitting on his lap and how he would sing to us The Animals Fair. He also would pretend to eat a wad of paper, we would watch it go into his mouth. Do not ask me what happened to the paper, I have no clue. I was so young when he died.
I remember the morning of 9/11 well. I was already at work when everything happened. I worked for a company that handled claims for the insurance companies and I started before 8am. My day started like any other. Going through the claims I needed to make calls on in the morning and looking through all of the new claims that had been assigned to me. The office was quiet, nothing out of the ordinary for this time of day.
A co worker, Jessica, came into work and she was in a huff about some fool driving on the road this morning. She vented for a few minutes and then stated that a plane had flown into one of the towers about 5 minutes before and right before she got out of her car, a second plane had hit the other tower. She said “We might be under attack!”
Our office was small, but we did have a tv in the conference room and one of the managers went in and turned it on so we could be updated. So far there had not been a lot of updates on our news. Management told us to continue to work…easier said then down. Our group handled claims on the east coast! I will never forget one call I had reluctantly made, the man answered the phone and when I told him what I was calling for, he said “we are under attack and this will have to wait!” Ok, that was the last call I made for the day pertaining to work. I told management the situation and that I was not calling anymore, we looked like we did not care what was happening to New York.
From there I made calls to my sister who was at home, she continued to keep us updated because by this time, they had turned out TV off at work. It was so hard to believe what was going on. Somewhere between 10 – 11am the owner of the company gathered all employees that wanted to pray into the center of the room. We stood holding hands in a circle praying for all involved that everything would be ok. After that, the company closed the doors for the day and we were allowed to go home.
I hauled cookies to get my kids from school, I did not feel safe leaving them there. All our schools were on lock down, and I had to show ID to pick each of them up. We spent the rest of the day, in our home, locked and safe from everything that was happening. I will never forget how terrified I was for the safety of my family.
Later that night we heard many stories about relatives who were supposed to be there and did not go to work for one reason or another. Same with friends of the family! How lucky they were to be safe at home while others gave their lives by just showing up to work.
Within the next few days my oldest was to go to NJ for a wedding that was taking place in Manhattan with her Grandmother. I was terrified to let her go, but she really wanted to. She came home telling me about the soldiers with the big guns in the airports and how safe everything was.
We will NEVER forget the events that unfolded on 9/11! We are still waiting for the there to be an end to all of this. Hopefully they will find Osama Bin Laden and hold him accountable for the things he has done !